tv Former Representative Trey Radel Democrazy CSPAN April 16, 2017 8:00pm-8:48pm EDT
writing this book was tough process. it's lot of fun but it was a little cathartic and i've been out there and doing some national media, but this is home, and you're my names, some are family. the first thing feel obligated to say is i'm sorry if i let anybody down. life has a lot of ups and downs but you have to keep sight of what is important. while i went through a lot, just to be clear, i had and have my
health, my family, and you here today and so thank you for coming here. i really appreciate you coming by tonight. this is really cool for me. we can have some fun. we can do q & a, i'm happy to talk about anything you want. i well tell you that if you listen to the station, maybe certain political stripes. i have done everything i can to invite people from all different grounds here tonight itch don't carry. let's be clear -- whether you're reading the book, democrazy, or if we're just having a conversation, i don't care if your democrat or republican. liberal of conservative. what i found in washington is
just how much we have in common. you don't see it on msnbr or fox, two extremes, but in the belly of the northeast washington, dc, the truth is, there's some really good people and i learned it's not real request democratic versus republican. off times it's americans versus the system. and the way that the system works. and so while i -- i break down kind of how the sausage is made in washington, dc in the book. at times it's so ridiculous, it's hilarious, so i take you through some of the ways that money is influence shall, and other ways it's not as influential as you might think it is. money really moves the infrastructure of parties so when you get to it, if you haven't get to to it yet issue can bust out my impression of john boehner a little later.
and has anyone had chance to read any of it at all? a few of your. all right. so i take you through, like, what it was like meeting john boehner not too far from here, right in naples, and what it was like through my set of eyes. s' what i try to do in the book is not really give partisan talking points and maybe there's also redemption and hanging out and talking, but it is not like a holier than thou book and not like any political book you have read, unless it's written by hunter s. thompson. a few of got that. it's not like any republican book, i promise you that. and don't if your republican --
i have fun with it. i want to show that, again, whether you're democrat or republican. some of the ridiculousness that's goes on in washington, dc but -- i can't stress this enough -- there are good people in washington who are working to improve your life. that may sound like political speakment -- speak, but while it's not necessarily democratic versus republicans, it's more like americans versus the system and the way it works. the reality is most members of congress really want the same things. solid opportunities for the people in their district, a brighter future for the people in their district and their kids and their families. it's a quit of how we get and that's when it gets talk. when you hear talk about thesees their moe partisan times ever. well we had that thing called the civil war which was intense.
so while we're in hyperpartisan times the country has always been that way, always been a struggle of more government or less government? how much do we need here or there? where do we cut to save, and one being theme is i don't get into social issues. i'm pretty libertarian. i think sometimes i've misconstrued as liberal. damn bleeding heart liberal. but i'm libertarian in i don't think the government has anything to do with your decisions about the battle with more government or less government is often in the context of time. so, for example, during world war ii, maybe for society it was a little bit better to have at built -- a little bit more government. while i thoroughly disagree with bailouts a lot of people would argue for them. but again, if some is in the
context of the time we're living in, of where we need more and where we need less. as a conservative i generally sway to less is way better for everybody but we may have differing opinions on that. that said, i have never written a book before so i don't know what i'm supposed to do here. i'm looking for guidance from anybody. i could please -- if anybody is about to step -- i could do q & a, read at bit if you want me to be cheesy. >> don't read anything. >> i won't. >> you want to do questions and answer or read a little bit and then we can have -- >> i like talking of let's do q & a and i'll repeat in the questions in case anybody can't hear you. and then maybe -- if i think part of the book is appropriate,
we can do that. you have no idea how hard it is to stand behind this podium and not walk around. please. >> i just wanted to know if you made friends in the house and if they kept up with you or did everybody turn their back -- >> did everybody bail out on me? i made friendships. two of them are democrats, one is a far left liberal that i joke around in the book of meeting. one of the first thing is did in congress, albeit my short time -- we'll have a little deprecateing humor here. when i was sworn in i went to meet every florida legislator. and i knew i would be talking with republicans every day but i
went to meet with florida democrats because, like anything in life, you cannot get anything done unless you have a relationship with people. and i think unfortunately in washington, you're missing a whole lot of that. i think for multiple leads because people leave immediately to go fundraise, a regular day in washington where they're in washington, dc on a monday through thursday or tuesday through friday, 5:00, when you get done with it committees and voting and you go out and you raise money, and a ton of money is devoted -- a ton of tomb i -- ton of time is devoted to money. so there's just so much focus on that. people leave. people leave immediatelily to go home. let she say thing to test that conventional wisdom. it's important that our members of congress are in tune with the
people they serve, and i mean literally shaking hands and hearing from people, i have to say it's just as more than or sometimes more important that they keep their butt -- watch myself -- in washington, dc because if hair not in washington, they're at home -- again either raising money or caught up in echo chamber that could be the far left, far right, moderates, whoever it may be. and typically as human beings we tend to stay in our little echo chambers. to make it work, going, yahoo, bink -- bink -- if you watch msnbc or fox, they keep you in that silo. members of congress should be in washington. one of the thing that is missing that was privilege lent a lot in
the '80s and '90s is members of congress would get to in the each other and their spouses, and they'd get to in the their children, and it's a whole lot harder to talk smack been somebody when your eight-year-old might be watching or harder to stick your finger in eye of somebody or call them the devil when you actually know them. i've met some democrats that far left liberal who i'm still in touch with today. i talk about going to meet people and then i talk about meeting the vial debbie wasserman schultz. i'm writing, boo, his s, and i talk about how often times --
it's this? that's funny. [buzzer] >> there we go. do you need this? is is better for the people in the back in all right. so, i went to meet debbie wasserman schultz and i remark on dish did radio before i ran nor congress, and i'm like talking about i used to talk a lot of smack about her on the radio. will she shank me? what is going to happen here when meet her? it turned out she is one of the nicest people i've ever met. she is very kind. empathetic, sympathetic, through my ups and downs and remain in touch with her today. i fundamentally, radically disagree with her on a lot of issues but she is go people and that's one thing that came out of washington, and i've been -- are you going to run again?
no, no, no, never running for congress again and that's part of the rob i can say these things i had a relationship with debbie wasserman schultz the is a nice person and a good person in congress it's tough to say that and that's one of the unfortunate parts of today. another question. >> deb debbie wasserman assault, i love her, so funny. >> i don't know how you mean that -- >> she is hilarious. that being said, why do people come home from washington and hear us but never listen to us. they never good back and do what we ask them to do. they're representatives. they go back and do what they want to do instead. >> depends on where you stand on the issues. ultimately the -- the biggest battle for a member of congress is what you -- what your conscience demand you do. how you feel in your heart. but balancing that with what the
constituents want. it's not always the same. think sometimes members of congress overcomplicate things. >> if you're voted into congress to get rid of obamacare and then you say we're not going to do that now, how -- >> let's leave that with the here and now. this political situation is the craziest ever. don't know how to make sense of it and i've been a political animal since i was 15 years old. when you talk about voting someone in to get rid of obamacare, let's take a look the present day situation. let me say something outload it they've you're a democrat, republican, don't care. right now, donald trump, the president, the republican pratt, it not only attacking the most conservative members of congress, he is targeting them. he is saying, i'm going to knock you out of a primary. the way that it used to be -- enwe say used to be i mean five minutes ago before the insanity
we have been through in the last couple years here -- is that you -- if you're a republican you fear an attack in in primary from the right. if you're in to in a republican district you fear someone will step and ensay i'm more conservative than this guide or you fear the outside groups. these organizations that are 501(c)(3), 501(c)(4), without the dynamics. they're groups that can drop a million dollars into race to primary you, club for going to, heritage, my dna i lined up with them on almost everything. heritage i differ on foreign policy. tend to be more libertarian. but republicans fear them. what is crazy right now is that, number one, don't know what conservative or right is, and
number two, it's not just now the grassroots organizations the 501(c)(4)s that republicans fear, they fear the trump campaign machine. it's just a bizarre time. let me stop that and just put the context into that. do believe that donald trump is a dealmaker. i hope that ends up with conservative policy. but there's part of me that in the way that i've watched him campaign and study him and be ameated by him. i'm going remove good and bad. i want to take emotion out of this. wonder is this is another tactic because the man was chockful of tactics the whole way through and this mail be just another way to shake up the system as he certainly promised to do and get people to vote his way. whether that's conservative policy, time will tell. what's up? we can chat about anything, policy, personal, whatever you want.
>> good to see you, a personal question, i'm sure it's in the book. very few people go through what you went through and as publicly, as a celebrity and member of congress and i think it speaks volumes you were able to withstand the slings and arrows from all over the place and then bounce back and come back. what sustained you during that time you faith, family? what inside you gave you strength to come back. >> my wife and son. [applause] >> look, i went through some dark times. i -- when we talk about the life, i went through some dark times but i again want to be clear that, like, it was -- yeah, there's no question it was awful. i mean you name the news network, i was standpoint named with a terrible moniker which i
don't want repeat because it stings. had a nice rhyme to it, though. and it was convenient. couldn't they call me representative, not congressman with the word c and i digress. i write about rolling hot wheels on the floor with miskid and feeling incredibly blessed because, again issue had my health and even when you look the legal situation and all that issue was very lucky even with the idiotic decisions i made. and let's be very clear. i'm not -- i don't make excuses or anything in this book. i just made really terrible decisions that hurt my family, hurt my friends, hurt people i worked with, some who are here tonight. i hurt my -- hurt a lot of people. but i would roll another wheels on -- hot wheels on the floor and be i'm so messed and lucky i have my family and i'm playing with my kids and starting to
learn about batman and superman and cool comics and then there's these waves of, what did i do to my life? i threw everything away. as time is the ultimate healer of wounds for a lot of the ups and downs in my life. a lot of areas of tragedy and successes and losses and all of that. time helps heal but family was the ultimate bonding. thank you. thank you for making it tough, man. i'm kidding. >> term limits would be a solution? >> i think term limits -- for every member of congress unless i'm serving in congress. no, no. i do think that you see legislatures around the united states that implement term limits and have, with the way, shortened sessions that they get in, they -- use the cliche, they crank out the sausage and
they're done and you have balanced budgets, solid policy. like we do in florida. there's always questions. what should you do or not. i believe in term limits would be a good thing. now, let me take it's step further, though. i think that -- i don't in the what the answers are but maybe there's a way to completely rethink the entire system. here's what mean by that. maybe, just maybe, long one-term would be like a one six-year term for dish meant to what the number is but maybe you do it eight-year term for a member of the united states senate, and a -- i don't know -- a five-year term for the house. maybe. just maybe, that takes a little bit of both the burden of fundraising and constantly campaigning -- any the house
it's every two years. the second you're southwestern in, the second you're running for your next campaign. it's insane. maybe that is one of the answers, longer year span but term limits. there's a lot of talk, staff will rule everything and take over of. i don't buy that. there is the argue; though, that the ultimate term limit is the vote the ballot booth, but having been in the belly of the beast, i will say that -- very openly, again, not having any weight of having to run again or be in the united states congress -- it is a heck of a lot easier to maintain your position when you're in because there are all -- one thing i go -- i'll get to weeds. i go into frank mail and there's somebody here laughing because -- okay. frank mail is -- the archaic term for the -- step back.
sometime the mind goes faster than the mouth you have two roles in congress or senate. your campaign and role as a federal lawmaker. you never, ever mix the two, i will say all member of congress i never saw mix organize abuse of office but one maybe, possibly, could be bowelsed with taxpayer -- could be abused with taxpayer direlies could be incumbentsy re-election inch you get budget in your office where you can mail out pieces and you cannot target based on demographic or republican or democrat, but you can kind of feel out, maybe, possibly, where your strongholds will be, where your voters might be, and if you know your district, let's use left and right. planned parenthood, divisive example. if you're in a very liberal district, when you mail these things out, they have to reflect your actual voting record.
cannot be political. only say i voted this way or that way ask has to be marked with "paid for by your tax dollar." let's say you're in a left-leaning ticket district and they're fighting for planned parenthood. you've might put out a mail are that says i voted for funding for planned parenthood. if you're in a republican district, we need to defund, or you can put out, look that this awesome legislation i just voted for to stop the funding of planned parenthood. maybe that could be abused. use that as just one of the examples in here that just kind of goes to show some of the realities of washington. what else? we'll go here and then here. >> i have a question about -- what's the responsibility of elected officials who are way more educated than the public on an issue, saying you represented an area where those -- you're
way moore familiar with water policy instead of the uneducated public who has the facts wrong. what this responsibility of the leader to go with what you know is right or with the public. >> that the's the battle about voting what is in your heart or heard versus the loudest people in the room. the last thing i right, the acknowledgment section. i write that i'm not there to hop on a moral high horse or preach to members of congress. hope some read it but i say, don't always listen to the loudest people in the room. the loudest are not always either the most educated or what is truly the best fit for the district, the constituency or for america for that matter. one issue i sometimes -- i know i get flak for on the radio, talking too much foreign policy, because i get a little in the weeds.
syria in the n the news today. i fought against the obama administration -- i don't care if would have been w's administration or this administration -- i'm very antiwar. think we're sending our children to fight battles that have been fought for thousands of years and coming home with limbs or they're doing of it's a fruits fight. don't know what the definition of win is. so, sorry. [applause] >> i'm not running for office. your getting me fired up here. so that was one of the issues where sometimes i'd get into a room and people would be like, we have to take the fight to them. that was my stereotypical southern accent. we got to go to freedom boys. i'm sorry but if you look at iraq today, it is corrupt, a mess, people of protesting because the infrastructure is a disservice to the people, and
there is a very valid question to be had about how much more stability we had not only in iraq but the entire region with, yes, the evil saddam hussein but we cannot be team america like the south park creators had their movie where puppets flew around the world blowing up stuff. we need to have a more fluid foreign policy but the focus has to be on domestic policy and what is happening in the united states and where liberals and conservatives can agree. think they can agree on where we shift our resources from abroad to hear -- here at home, whether for education or our veterans here today. sorry. geno. >> return i like your idea about -- written comes to the a and b committees where people get more adept at a time, the new generation, which you're part of, but if it continues hoe would that move? >> the committees? yeah.
>> how would that be affected. >> i don't have all the answers. so, are you referring to the part of the book where i talk about being on an a and b committee? is that what you're referring to? you read part -- you read the book, thank you. so, the -- thank you. the -- so, in congress there are a and b committees. i'll share this -- a built of a dirty can secret. it's not too much of a spoiler. especially when john boehner becomes a rock star. there are -- committees in congress -- you know them, you've heard them, the intelligence committee, committee on foreign relations, the transportation infrastructure, foreign affairs, budget, they good on and on. -- they go on and on, and whether or not -- what is that? hi. -- there are a committees and b committees.
a committees are to the stellar committees. like south beach's hottest club you want to get on but you have the big bouncer with the red velvet rope that won't let you. in ''aye committees are committees like energy and -- i'm having a brain fart -- ways and means. ways and minneapoliss the best committee to get on because you control what affects everybody in the united states, tax policy. so, if you're effecting tax policy, there's a whole lot of vested interests. if vested interests meaning where the government inserts itself, the introduction of lobbyists. lobbyists aren't bad people. the only reason they exist is because government is in an industry. government is in there deciding what will your subsidy, your tax brake and as long as government
is picking on chooses, a business to subsidize or your 501(c)(3) or how they set tax code, that where is the lobbyists step into the office and say we need to keep this break, we need to keep this break for pharmaceutical companies in puerto rico. that's actually an example. an a committee is where you to guetta tot dirty little secret, can raise a lot of money. you have vested aprils to whatnot to get you on the phone, lobbyist will donate to your campaign. the crazy part is how you get on an a or b committee, and the way you do it -- let me be very clear. this is democrats and republicans. i'm on equal opportunity shot taker about the system and how it works. the way you get on a better committee is how much money you raid for that party's political apparatus.
think about that for a second. so, you've got what is todd the d triple c for the democrat and the runs it's the nrcc, national republican congressional committee. the political arms separate from what people do as lawmaker but the step into a district and assassinate the competition and boost up the gave they want in the district. the political arm. the more money how raise for them, the better committee you get on them. so it's one of these areas where it's like, oh, yeah, sure, the political separate from what i really do in congress, wink, wink and that is part of the wait goes. as for the answer to term limits irdon't know. that's a tough question that could publish would need to be sorted out. in tallahassee they term limit but run in succession. was there a question? >> how do you see the future of
bipartisan politic inside trump era where everything is pushed to the extreme on ever i- >> donald trump is now reaching tout democrats and i don't know if that's a tactical measure of negotiating. we'll see. but bipartisanship actually does exist. there are -- just not sexy. it's not cool to good on the news and look at this water infrastructure bill that both democrats democrats and republicans passed today. it'sber to hear about these people are yelling at each other, turmoil, chaos, 25 million people will lose their insurance, people will die. that's what the news wants to cover. but will they cover the way democrats and republicans -- something near and dear to my heart, someone who wanted to reach out to other members i
worked on things like criminal justice reform. there are republicans, mose libertarian leaning democrats, including paul ryan, working on mass incarceration, the spending that we do on it, mandatory minimums, things like that the federal level. democrats and republicans are working together in some areas. just ain't cool to talk about them. yep? >> that do you become that the healthcare thing that hadn'tty is always talking about. >> i don't know. >> you think that will if be implemented. >> it's a complicated mess. i've spoken with congress, people on both sides who voted no. look, just a little insight. i even get to share this on radio this morning but there was some -- from what i've learned -- loose-at me.
sound like re -- from my sources like reporter but a close friend of minimum in congress sad that it what happened behind the scenes that a few members of the freedom quarterbacks promised they would come through and left the white house with a deal then they reneged. it's a mess. what is crazy is what happens next. does the governing coalition become president trump, democrats and moderate republicans? i don't know. it's a fascinating time. >> the den of vipers towards alternatives such as -- >> as what? >> bitcoin. >> they want total and complete control. shuck schumer -- democrats and republicanned. bitcoin is a currency that is not monmerred by the federal -- monitored into the federal government -- i won't get into nsa talk or that.
but i occasionally throw on the tinfoil hat and have'm deep libertarian beliefs and civil rights. that said, yes, of course, they want as much control and monitor monetary transactions. there's always been the theory that, next they'll fate out the penny and then phase out the nickel and then -- and i don't know. i always keep a little cash on hand. what else? >> you're bringing up trump having all -- the media calls it trump playing five dimensional chess or another buzz word like that. do you think the trump administration has been a mixed bag with him not doing the internet privacy bill. too you door door do you think
he is doing good like repealing the nsa or what you -- >> with respect to the browser data 'er talking about being sold, isp, i would have gone against most republicans on that, and real quick. again, just to recap here as quickly as possible. republicans overwhelmingly voted to allow data from your browser, cookies and things luke that, without get doing much poo theweed too your internet service provedor. the reality of that information is very much open as it exists. >> it really wasn't that open. your -- [inaudible question] >> totally agree with that. >> the devils enough is that all of -- the difference enough is all of your information is being evened to everybody versus a small amount of that data being, like, google or facebook. >> right. everything. and my belief -- while you may have a conservative -- again i
don't like to put people in boxes or give labels because we're complicate as human beings and politics or candidates. the conservative argument would be, it's business and everything should be transparent and anything can be bought and sold, whatever, the private market will figure it out. we dent knee government regulation mitchell argument is the internet is too young. i tend to side with beth. it's a little bit of civil liberty issues but also just a recognition that still today the internet is something that we truly have no idea of the infinite possibilities of the really positive thing that can come from it but also to go to that some of the negative when it comes to your information made immediately available. you look at this potential examples of -- let's look at if
a -- your credit card information was unmasked in similar ways which there are still some regulations on the extent of your shopping. if health care toys -- random example -- stick with me if you're a smoker, just an example. if you go to get gas and you pay inside, if they're figuring out that you're -- that you're paying inside, statistically 'er more likely to be a smoker because your getting cigarettes. the healthcare company gets the information and your premiums will be different from everybody else. it's random example but if you play that out whether you get -- get proofed for a loan or any health care company will pick you up, you get into some sticky situations and it's very difficult. that said i would have -- let me move on. there was one over here.
was that you? >> you missed the point of my original question. sorry. >> go ahead. >> but the main point of the restrictions on isps were right now there's a lot of laws, here in florida, where i sp-very limited. for instance, going -- google had their -- you can't throw up a mom and pop isp. you have to go takamakas or -- the fact to the laws were in place to replace monopolies and then being taken away and logging of isp, that's the biggest problem, not just -- >> yeah. there's an argument to be made with the infrastructure. do believe our hope, though, that as we have seen in history that often times what we think
is a monopoly today is blown up tomorrow and when we can use various examples, even with infrastructure based systems like that. this is a conversation we can have probably for hours. >> what else? any other questions? i'm happy to answer anything at all. >> if you dent believe in war, just wondered what would be your solution -- >> to the threat of terrorism. >> well, okay. because we get very complicated talks when we're talking another isis or saddam hussein. i think that when we went into iraq, what we have -- now, look, i'll remove the argue. about what we should have finished because we didn't. it's a completely destabilized region, not just iraq. the reason for that is spread to libya -- that's crazy.
that's not the middle east. that's north africa. is because of the destabilization of iraq and the way that eventually that al qaeda turn into this wickedstep brother, bastard step child called isis, and it's spread all over, and you see what is happening in syria right now -- again, bashar al-assad is a dictator. get it. but there was a stability there. and there's something to be said when you have peace and stability. the other question that you have to take with that is, well, saddam hussein was killing his people. i'll give you 100 different examples of dictators around different continents that are either starving their people to death, robbing their people blind or directly killing their own people. well, that's a dark conversation we're having here. so, with that said, i tend to lean very libertarian in i don't
think there's a solution, and if vladimir putin and bashar al-assad want to take back control of their country, let them if don't know why we have to shed our kids' blood to do so if anybody has read the book, two people here who are featured and are here, marcus, who i'm sure is happy to be introduced. marcus is the guy i box with, my boxing trainer. this is more than, one of my closest friends. marcus is who i write about extensively in the book. mark, i start with how marcus always helped me, a., state in shape, and after i blew my life up and i disappeared off the face of the earth, literally, this was the first place i went with his gym and it's good to see you here tonight, man. [applause] >> i'm so proud of you what you're doing. we're good friends but to get away from politics and back to the book.
doing political cob assault examination radio do you see yourself writing another book or young politicians, something informative? >> yeah. don't know. have no idea, man. the print just dried here. >> colorful and dramatic and very insightful. for anybody that doesn't follow politics that strong or for people that don't know politics, gives them insight. >> write another one. >> i don't know. it's a bit of my life. including, like, shooting ak47s in cam bodey which you'll -- cambodia which you'll read about. i really enjoyed writing. i've never written a become before. i have written for tv news -- your taught to write -- write like you're writing to a fifth grader. you need subject, verb, object, very simple and plain for people to understand.
this is definitely a different process other than writing about the hurricane that hit southwest florida or tax rates getting jacked up or a cat stuck in a career. don't worry, never covered a cat stuck in a tree. don't know, man. would say that if anybody is considering running for really any elected position, that even though this is for a federal position, it gives you a little insight as to how you really as a campaign 'er a -- you're a startup business, an entity, product. i don't want to sound raw but that is what you are. you're a product there to sell yourself. and it is not the best feeling. but that is what you do. come up with your brand, your i.d. matt you want me to introduce you -- okay. don't. somebody here help me extensively will creating -- when we launch a campaign, your web site.
you get down to what you wear, there consultants when you saw all the republicans onstage and everybody was wearing black blazer, white shirt, blue tie. no, to, every the red tie, we're going to be different. there are consultants paid to tell them that. it's insane. the intricacies of campaigning. we were a rag tag group that didn't really have consultants or anything like that, but if you're interested in running for something, i'm always happy to chat with you and the book will give you a little insight into what goes on, what it takes and awful raising money is. [applause] >> any other questions? >> i got a question. >> yep. >> what is your take on the current situation with the government right now. >> so, what i talked about
earlier in term of partisanship, there is bipartisanship in washington, dc, just not cool to cover. notber takenning to turn on msnbr and fox news -- well, look, they appealed a water infrastructure bill today. or they both -- one thing worked on with democrats-kiln justice reform, removing mandatory minimums for federal judges, allowing federal judges to do their job. these are areas where the far left and the far right come together but we don't hear that. hear whoever pops off, who is is going to talk smack is who gets the camera. that's how you -- i tell you what, in the politics of politics, that's one of the harsh realities that exists, is that if you want to good raise money, be the crazy person. that's one way to raise money because there really are a lot of people that are going to find you, donate to your campaign, and it's not always the best
thing. i was never that guy. don't get me wrong. i get crazy with my humor in the book, mostly at my own cost, but that's unfortunate that that's the way it is today. it's a shame. on a lighter note, again, i'm telling you, there are people who are working together and cannot stress enough that democrats and republicans at the end of the day mick -- my experience, both parties are filled with good people who have really good intentions for our country. it's just how we get and that's not always the easiest fight. sometimes it's a fight ore debate or discussion, other times it's the crazy people that i talked about getting up and popping off on msnbc, fox, cnn, whatever it may be, or c-span. i haven't popped off too much, have? i what else? anything else? you tell me. >> if you want to say anything about book. if not we can have opportunities
to sign. >> all right. >> i feel weird with the velvet rope here and stuff. come to manhattan's hottest club. hi, i'd like to make a reservation. we can get you in a month on a tuesday at midnight. cool. so, i stay mic'd up. all right. >> oh, my gosh. [inaudible conversations] >> we're the rotunda at thomas ever's university of virginia.